21st July 2008, 02:20 PM
I think it is the essense, where it is not the overdrive PC.. it is the knowledge to know the difference.. to respect people, but not the point where PC atitudes override everything. A builder can be disciplined for making remarks and whistling... - I had to talk to a builders firm once... my wife was whistled at by builders, to the point where she would take a different (and longer route) - they.. by there actions, caused her (and others) distress.. but sadly, it was me (as a man) that had to talk to the builders... becasue she was no longer confident enough to go in and complain... how sad that 'it was just a bit of fun' caused distress, which they did not even think about.
Perhaps as men, if we think about the feelings of others.... (would we like it if somebody made comments to our wife, partner, girlfriend? - I doubt it)
Steve says it in the last sentance... its not the apreciating the difference that causes the problem.
Dolly Parton may be unreconstructed and gruff.. but does that mean he can comment on a new staff members breasts at his first introduction... hmmmm I could imagine the embarresment if a female member of staff (my boss or superior) looked me up and down and before anything else, remarked on the size of my ####
winking at other staff at the same time... I would not stay in that job for long I can tell you, and would probably be quiet, not becasue I accepted that behaviour, but was to shamed to do anything else, fearing ridicule and more laughter...
WE can, slag each other off, and the like, once we know each other, and feel comfortable with the parameters, and meaning. I always remember a dig in York, where there was much (I hope) good natured and offensive abuse directed at me... which was a laugh... I had been away from the site for 3 months on another job, came back and a new member who I did not know joined in... the hut went silent .... they went red faced and spluttered... but you were all slagging off Rat... "yes.. " came the answer... "but we know each other".
"No job worth doing was ever done on time or under budget.."
Khufu
Perhaps as men, if we think about the feelings of others.... (would we like it if somebody made comments to our wife, partner, girlfriend? - I doubt it)
Steve says it in the last sentance... its not the apreciating the difference that causes the problem.
Dolly Parton may be unreconstructed and gruff.. but does that mean he can comment on a new staff members breasts at his first introduction... hmmmm I could imagine the embarresment if a female member of staff (my boss or superior) looked me up and down and before anything else, remarked on the size of my ####
winking at other staff at the same time... I would not stay in that job for long I can tell you, and would probably be quiet, not becasue I accepted that behaviour, but was to shamed to do anything else, fearing ridicule and more laughter...
WE can, slag each other off, and the like, once we know each other, and feel comfortable with the parameters, and meaning. I always remember a dig in York, where there was much (I hope) good natured and offensive abuse directed at me... which was a laugh... I had been away from the site for 3 months on another job, came back and a new member who I did not know joined in... the hut went silent .... they went red faced and spluttered... but you were all slagging off Rat... "yes.. " came the answer... "but we know each other".
"No job worth doing was ever done on time or under budget.."
Khufu