16th January 2008, 12:40 AM
Please remember folks... that this is BAJR... and we talk tough and do things... yes actually do things...
Oz... Yes ... I have folders full... No really..BAJR Hotline is not just a name!
As to the middle classness.. welll.... I would guess that many many are indeed from that 'class' and look at the archaeologists at the 'top' a whiff of tweed... ? (again... pointless as it si a bit of a broad brush) But I like you was an archaeologist of the 80s and 90s... and got about.. across the UK - So I have to say there are a lot of Pips and Lucys .. etc.
This however is not about class.. its about attitude.
I expect it to be rough... and awkward... it does not need us to take stances.
There is no reason for archaeology to bend over backwards and get nothing back... neiher is there a reason for detectorsits to bend over backwards and get nothin back...
I spend a lot of time on both this and detectorist forums (as do a couple of others here) I see the same on both... just interchange the names.
We are here for solutions... now perhaps we are passionate about what we are involved in? perhaps thats why it matters to us both... and why passions run high.
Question?
Is archaeology perfect? Does it have all the answers? Are we so arrogant that we can't stand the thought of other 'non-professionals' actually knowing things.??
Question?
I Metal Detecting perfect? Does it have a moral high ground? Are they so defensive that they can't stand the thought that archaeologists might know quite a bit about what they are doing?
Lets answer No to both.................
So... As Tony says ... and coming from Tony Rodbinson this is a big swallow for him... Metal Detecting is not going away... Archaeology needs to adress its stance NOW.............
to quote the great Yoda... and I am serious here.
"Fear is the path to the Dark Side;
fear leads to anger. Anger leads to
hate. Hate leads to suffering."
Lets rest... think... talk.
This BAJR Forum is it :face-huh:
I am off to bed... so would love this to begin tommorrow with fresh minds.. and some real thoughts about how to achieve ....?
please?
"No job worth doing was ever done on time or under budget.."
Khufu
Oz... Yes ... I have folders full... No really..BAJR Hotline is not just a name!
As to the middle classness.. welll.... I would guess that many many are indeed from that 'class' and look at the archaeologists at the 'top' a whiff of tweed... ? (again... pointless as it si a bit of a broad brush) But I like you was an archaeologist of the 80s and 90s... and got about.. across the UK - So I have to say there are a lot of Pips and Lucys .. etc.
This however is not about class.. its about attitude.
I expect it to be rough... and awkward... it does not need us to take stances.
There is no reason for archaeology to bend over backwards and get nothing back... neiher is there a reason for detectorsits to bend over backwards and get nothin back...
I spend a lot of time on both this and detectorist forums (as do a couple of others here) I see the same on both... just interchange the names.
We are here for solutions... now perhaps we are passionate about what we are involved in? perhaps thats why it matters to us both... and why passions run high.
Question?
Is archaeology perfect? Does it have all the answers? Are we so arrogant that we can't stand the thought of other 'non-professionals' actually knowing things.??
Question?
I Metal Detecting perfect? Does it have a moral high ground? Are they so defensive that they can't stand the thought that archaeologists might know quite a bit about what they are doing?
Lets answer No to both.................
So... As Tony says ... and coming from Tony Rodbinson this is a big swallow for him... Metal Detecting is not going away... Archaeology needs to adress its stance NOW.............
to quote the great Yoda... and I am serious here.
"Fear is the path to the Dark Side;
fear leads to anger. Anger leads to
hate. Hate leads to suffering."
Lets rest... think... talk.
This BAJR Forum is it :face-huh:
I am off to bed... so would love this to begin tommorrow with fresh minds.. and some real thoughts about how to achieve ....?
please?
"No job worth doing was ever done on time or under budget.."
Khufu