Posts: 0
Threads: 0
Joined: Jun 2011
Development without control will be a cancer on the landscape. Planning without constraint will lead to a landscape littered with ugly buildings not fit for purpose like those which sprung up in the post-war years in inner cities. Remember the concrete tower blocks which saw the rag to riches stories of many in the construction industry and the enforced misery of many, admittedly not all, the people who lived within this sky touching 'prisons'. I was talking to an American student on a university excavation two days ago and he told me that the wonderful thing about this country was our understanding of the importance of our heritage and the laws which protected the countryside. In Utah where he lived he told me that 'developers money' talked loud in the palnning departments where no regard is held for the environment, one minute there is a mountain the next it has been levelled and a shopping mall built. Maybe this is not quite the scenario set for this country but under Cllr. Melton's vision for the future I can envisage a situation where developers and not elected members control planning matters!
Posts: 0
Threads: 0
Joined: Sep 2009
The only place I like bunnies is on my plate! If someone wishes to insult/slur archaeologists at least have the courtesy to get it right! Nothing like an uninformed philistine to raise the heritage profession ire.
A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort.
Posts: 0
Threads: 0
Joined: Sep 2009
24th June 2011, 07:22 PM
(This post was last modified: 24th June 2011, 07:24 PM by moreno.)
Tizzy Wrote:I was talking to an American student on a university excavation two days ago and he told me that the wonderful thing about this country was our understanding of the importance of our heritage and the laws which protected the countryside. In Utah where he lived he told me that 'developers money' talked loud in the palnning departments where no regard is held for the environment, one minute there is a mountain the next it has been levelled and a shopping mall built. Maybe this is not quite the scenario set for this country but under Cllr. Melton's vision for the future I can envisage a situation where developers and not elected members control planning matters!
Uhh...I hate to rain on your momentum, but Utah is a bit of a rogue state, and really shouldn't be used as an example for enlightening our British cousins. The majority of the states in the US have very stringent environmental and heritage protection legislation. :face-approve:
Big Love...catch it on Sky Atlantic *AR!*
A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort.
Posts: 0
Threads: 0
Joined: Jun 2011
No probably not but it does go to illustrate what can happen when 'rogue' states or officials or councillors or councils seek to tear up the rule book!
Posts: 0
Threads: 0
Joined: Sep 2009
Seek doesn't necessarily equal success.
A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort.
Posts: 0
Threads: 0
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 0
Threads: 0
Joined: Oct 2006
Quote:[SIZE=3]Interesting....
But as:
oxford county council archaeology department
doesn't actually exist - guess we'll never know
[/SIZE]
that?s a point I was trying to make. Who is oxford county council archaeology department. We ?archaeologists? all know that it was once Cambridge county council archaeology depatment that went what- Greek? It gave its self (or from a councillery meeting) a name plucked from a virtual reality, the Oxbridge departments presumably had a few ifa members who pretended to do archaeology with a speciality in 100,000 pound + jobs which it got asked to tender for -to give the veneer of respectability?-whilst others like oneman bands did not??.who asked the virtual county council archaeology departments to tender. This was not an individual private landowner, theres stakeholders partners, PFI, involved, as well as this grotty councillorwort, involved.
I think an important point to point out to the assembled huggers. This ?job? had a cast of hundreds of tax farmers- a lot with an ancestry going back to the romans.
Quote:[SIZE=3]probably worth stating here that if councillor melton gets his way some 1man bands would hugely benefit
[/SIZE]
if I could get the ?100000 survey of all archaeological interventions over a period of years I could show you some home truths. If melton has the right grease I am his archaeologist, I can show his point a hundred times over-I have got a passport that says archaeologist-
Reason: your past is my past
Posts: 7
Threads: 3
Joined: Mar 2009
24th June 2011, 10:41 PM
(This post was last modified: 24th June 2011, 11:35 PM by GnomeKing.)
OAS OR OAN OR OAE OR OAM OR OAOaOA And ... (then when why) ? !
OR :face-thinks:
"...not simply an amalgam of loosely linked specialist contributions. It is the result of ... working closely together in the field and collaborating creatively with each other throughout the process of analysis and writing. As such it is a fine demonstration of the outstanding value of professional archaeological units." Cunliffe, BW (1978:in, CBA RR28)
Now. :face-thinks::face-thinks:
Posts: 0
Threads: 0
Joined: Oct 2006
24th June 2011, 10:50 PM
(This post was last modified: 24th June 2011, 10:58 PM by Unitof1.)
hay are "we" struggling for identity
hay we are struggling for identity
some councillor twit thinks we are the problem
and "we" are
now if he had said that unitof1 has taken my 100000 for a few bits of grotty pot which will never see the same light of day as the average metal detected find hes right
unfortunatly hes trying to explain away why this very grooty ex grammerschool has not got a tower
has the site report be published yet?
echo...ooo
Reason: your past is my past
Posts: 7
Threads: 3
Joined: Mar 2009
or¬
yet - in this BunnyCave the shadows are still dancing.
even this :
“There is another aspect of our association with rescue work which should be noted. It is that archaeologists tend often to be identified with those conservationists who wish to preserve anything of antiquity. However, as archaeologists we must be aware that change is inevitable and that it is impossible impracticable and indeed undesirable for our
landscape to be fossilized at one particular stage of its development.
On the other hand it is true that redevelopment at the moment removes so much so quickly that we must be vigilant to conserve those aspects of the landscape which are of particular merit or illustrate particular features of our history, but ubiquitous preservation is as sterile as ubiquitous destruction. Constructive planning is imperative today to cope with landscape change on an unprecedented scale, and if not influenced by aesthetic, historic and humane considerations
it will unknowingly destroy what we have inherited.
Archaeologists have a role to play in this planning process. We must not just have a narrow vision solely concerned
with the underground aspects of archaeology, but join ourselves with those who see our total landscape as much a result of art as of nature and seek to conserve and develop it as a pleasing and economic environment for our successors.” R.T. ROWLEY / W. FOWLER[SIZE=1] CBA Group 9 : 4, 1974[/SIZE]
[SIZE=1]:face-thinks:
[/SIZE]
