27th January 2013, 01:02 PM
I am glad that Doug answered... and can answer. I count Doug as a friend.. like him, but feel I am able to disagree and still be civil as he can disagree and be civil.
Here I think lies the problem that finds us in a place where people can be angry on both 'sides'
This is a massive work... but what does it do? What has it ever done to advance the profession. I recently heard the Polish quoting the Euro version and I was al but in tears with frustration as it quoted facts and figures that were not caveated with the absolutely vital information that the survey is based on those that replied. I cannot reply as it stands. and so my voice once more goes unheard, but worse... I become included in a statistic... p[lacing me into the data set... without my data. I know this is how stats works. BUT as we have seen and commented on in all the previous versions... the world changes. The survey needs to address the specialist, the unit of one. or our voice is lost... that is frustrating... given that it has been said before.
I have known Kenny for many years... he should be tough enough to take criticism, just as I have had to in the other direction. I am sure he is. The question is - why has the PtP not allowed for a dual survey. IF you are a one man band... click here... If you are a company click here....
Like Doug... I often feel there is a negative attitude in archaeology as well. where it is easier to point out failure and disagreement... BUT not so easy to praise and support.
But... even now... with BAJR soon to stand alone, unless people act. I am creating BAJR 13 to help specialists, companies from across Europe, students and public to get information and jobs... and offer a treat via Doug et al.. a real treat... One that will have many people going... damn... how good is that.
The thing is... we are angry... we are damned angry... but we can still be civil... and I have to say... I like robust debate that gets somewhere.
Quote:Yes, some of you did not like it. Yes, some of you felt it did not apply to you. OK, then you do not need to fill it out but you also don't need to tell me to F-off.
Here I think lies the problem that finds us in a place where people can be angry on both 'sides'
This is a massive work... but what does it do? What has it ever done to advance the profession. I recently heard the Polish quoting the Euro version and I was al but in tears with frustration as it quoted facts and figures that were not caveated with the absolutely vital information that the survey is based on those that replied. I cannot reply as it stands. and so my voice once more goes unheard, but worse... I become included in a statistic... p[lacing me into the data set... without my data. I know this is how stats works. BUT as we have seen and commented on in all the previous versions... the world changes. The survey needs to address the specialist, the unit of one. or our voice is lost... that is frustrating... given that it has been said before.
I have known Kenny for many years... he should be tough enough to take criticism, just as I have had to in the other direction. I am sure he is. The question is - why has the PtP not allowed for a dual survey. IF you are a one man band... click here... If you are a company click here....
Like Doug... I often feel there is a negative attitude in archaeology as well. where it is easier to point out failure and disagreement... BUT not so easy to praise and support.
But... even now... with BAJR soon to stand alone, unless people act. I am creating BAJR 13 to help specialists, companies from across Europe, students and public to get information and jobs... and offer a treat via Doug et al.. a real treat... One that will have many people going... damn... how good is that.
The thing is... we are angry... we are damned angry... but we can still be civil... and I have to say... I like robust debate that gets somewhere.