Military Diploma of Discharge

[vulpes]

Yeah, whatever... don't change the subject.

[garybrun]

quote:Originally posted by vulpes

Yeah, whatever... caught me out there apparently. Keep up the good work.:face-stir:

Thank you I will [:p]



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[vulpes]

And .... don't change the subject.

[vulpes]

Actually, having thought about it. I now accept that the phrase

quoteossibly interred in or near a neolithic tumulus

when used to describe the discovery of an artefact by a detectorist is completely innocuous and I regret having ever mentioned it, or querying it's ambiguity and possibly (allegedly) incriminating nature. Sorry. [:I]

BAJR host: Perhaps Mr Brun could be reminded of the AUP. The purpose of this forum is not to vilify or abuse members or to mock them for mistakes of grammar made in posts.

Edited for spelling and clarity.

[BAJR Host]

Neither is it to turn into a handbag fight between people...

so if everyone... EVERYONE could drop handbags.. ! :face-stir:

You are interested by the statement about the Neolithic tumulus... as we all know if it was a SAM, the detectorist would hardly detect on it and then be daft enough to ask about a find found on a SAM... so can we ask him? There is a way to contact the finder... but I have to confess I can't see how... perhaps Gary can explain the process..

Until then... and to keep people happy... the BM know as well


"No job worth doing was ever done on time or under budget.."
Khufu

[1man1desk]

I think the exchange between vulpes and garybrun is perhaps getting a bit too personal, and to an extent off the subject. Perhaps, if it is to continue, it ought to go via private messages rather than on the forum.

However, there is a serious point that bears some questioning. The object in question is described as being found 'in or near a neolithic tumulus'.

Most known neolithic tumuli are Scheduled Ancient Monuments, and it would be an offence to detect there.

On the other hand, if the object came from topsoil in a ploughed field adjacent to a tumulus that was also under the plough (or had been), or the tumulus had been completely ploughed-out, then the relationship with the tumulus may be simply a piece of speculative interpretation. No offence need have been committed, and the detectorist may have been acting perfectly responsibly.

The statement about the relationship is ambiguous, and it would be very useful to find out something more precise, rather than arguing about it here on the basis of incomplete information.



1man1desk

to let, fully furnished

[garybrun]

If you register on the UKDFD site you then have the option to contact the recorder.
Just like this site the email addresses are hidden and it goes through the board itself.
Maybe that is the reason you cant see the link.

In all honesty my post was asking for advice on an important find... to share it with the forum here as I valued your advice. I did not expect to be dragged through the mill.
My hand bag is thrown away... I must admit I did think about putting a few horse shoes in it and shoving it were the sun don't shine

If anything this thread shows there is a lot of work to do with past prejudices.




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[vulpes]

Sorry. Was trying to make a serious point. Seems to have got lost somewhere. Glad you've abandoned your hanbag Gary. It never suited you anyway! [8D]

[BAJR Host]

thanks 1 man, and Gary and Vulpes .. the important piece of info has been found and it is good, that it has been recorded... the location is important as well..



"No job worth doing was ever done on time or under budget.."
Khufu

[garybrun]

quote:These fragments belong to a Roman military diploma issued to the auxiliary forces of the province of Britannia. Units known to have been based in Britannia such as the cohors I Tungrorum, the III Bracaraugustanorum, and the III Lingonum,, IIII Delmatarum, and V Raetorum can be identifed from the fotos. The text of the larger fragment also confirms towards the end SVNT IN BRITA(NNIA). The exact date of the fragment needs further investigation, but it will likely have been issued from the time of Hadrian to Commodus. In all some 30 diplomas issued for Britannia are known to date, out of ca. 1000 diplomas for all provinces, praetorian, and fleet units combined throughout the Roman empire. A more detailed transcript will follow soon.

It would definitely be worth to get clearer fotos, and if the finder is interested we could publish it for him in an archeological/epigrahic journal.

Website for responsible Metal Detecting
http://www.ukdfd.co.uk
Recording Our Heritage For Future Generations.