30th October 2006, 09:56 PM
In a way Gary you are right and wrong.
First I should state that I as BAJR cannot agree with a 'break the company' stance... it does nobody any good.... lets talk!
and GAry, you are right in that the wages are known before starting, and it is here that BAJR has been 'growing' in influence over the years... If you advertise on BAJR you MUST pay the levels stated, or you do not get to advertise.. (which makes BAJR a bit different from other advertising sites
- I take the view that if you want to advertise elsewhere- thats fine.. just not here. Its really the only rule.. and one that is 'accepted' by most who advertise. ) However, it is clear that over the past 2 or 3 years, the way round the this is to only advertise the posts that pass muster.. while keeping other posts at the same level... a kind of two teir system that I have no real way of knowing about... unless I am told. It does state however in the conditions of inclusion on BAJR
"As an Archaeological Contractor within the UK and Ireland, I intend to uphold the Code of Conduct set down by the IFA, and also will ensure that Pay and Conditions are above the recognised standards. I understand that inclusion on this list is dependant on the above requirement, failure to do so will result in removal if no resolution can be reached. "
The real problem, which is being wrestled with jsut now is that the pay scales are - lets be frank - sillY [:o)]. The difference between the lowest grade and the highest are only around 15k.. so its not much to move between. The 'middle grades' such as supervisor or Project Officer, when a person is showing ability, commitment and a real need to haev a secure job (as much as it can be) are the worst affected.. with pay at around 16k (starting) with not much extra to look forward to, even after further years of work and training.. plus the additional responsibilities.
Jobs are hard to come by where you know you have more than a few months... you take what you can get.. and sometimes become trapped in a job with little money, but it is better than going back out into the cold.
It is tricky, and I do sympathise with smaller contractors.. but or shoudl I say BUT... it does not have to be that way. I would rather see a company prosper than go under... and there are ways.
"No job worth doing was ever done on time or under budget.."
Khufu
First I should state that I as BAJR cannot agree with a 'break the company' stance... it does nobody any good.... lets talk!
and GAry, you are right in that the wages are known before starting, and it is here that BAJR has been 'growing' in influence over the years... If you advertise on BAJR you MUST pay the levels stated, or you do not get to advertise.. (which makes BAJR a bit different from other advertising sites
- I take the view that if you want to advertise elsewhere- thats fine.. just not here. Its really the only rule.. and one that is 'accepted' by most who advertise. ) However, it is clear that over the past 2 or 3 years, the way round the this is to only advertise the posts that pass muster.. while keeping other posts at the same level... a kind of two teir system that I have no real way of knowing about... unless I am told. It does state however in the conditions of inclusion on BAJR"As an Archaeological Contractor within the UK and Ireland, I intend to uphold the Code of Conduct set down by the IFA, and also will ensure that Pay and Conditions are above the recognised standards. I understand that inclusion on this list is dependant on the above requirement, failure to do so will result in removal if no resolution can be reached. "
The real problem, which is being wrestled with jsut now is that the pay scales are - lets be frank - sillY [:o)]. The difference between the lowest grade and the highest are only around 15k.. so its not much to move between. The 'middle grades' such as supervisor or Project Officer, when a person is showing ability, commitment and a real need to haev a secure job (as much as it can be) are the worst affected.. with pay at around 16k (starting) with not much extra to look forward to, even after further years of work and training.. plus the additional responsibilities.
Jobs are hard to come by where you know you have more than a few months... you take what you can get.. and sometimes become trapped in a job with little money, but it is better than going back out into the cold.
It is tricky, and I do sympathise with smaller contractors.. but or shoudl I say BUT... it does not have to be that way. I would rather see a company prosper than go under... and there are ways.
"No job worth doing was ever done on time or under budget.."
Khufu