25th May 2010, 02:08 PM
There are a few weak arguments in there too...
Put it this way... I am about to plant vegetables in my garden.. (total cost 15 quid... ) yikes says I... thats a lot of money to pay out... however, I end up with lots more vegtables, I know they are ethically grown with no carrot cruelty and save myself money in the long run, as well as knowing that I can bore people with my humerous odd shaped parsnip story - add to that I will be able to join others at teh village show in August and meet with other people... share tips and hints and again bore people with my humerous odd shaped parsnip story.
it is an investment in the future... it is not a tax or cash that could better be spent on a pack of fags or a pint... it is an investment in a future. You talk about need those savings to pay for staying alive, keeping a roof over my head and keeping my car running and a pension!..... I understand you have a permanent job, so this is a poor state to be in and sympathise with those that may be temporary... (ps... no work, the subs go to circa 50p a week) - with your employer contribution to the pension, that should not be too bad... but lets be honest... if this is where you are now... its not looking good for your future is it... if you barely survive as it is, then its not going to get better... or could it?
Be happy in your condition... or change it
Quote:It is essential to sort out overtime rates, accomodation, transport etc before you start a project.surely you have a standard rate and policy within a company or does it vary from job to job? going up and down...
Quote:a fiver (or so) a week soon racks upindeed it does... and where does this fiver a week figure come from? Of course, for those that remember the benchmarking .... the rates of pay can't be forced on anyone... e specially if some groups remain outside... charging as low as they can and paying staff as little as possible... etc... it once again comes to personal responsibility... I am shocked to hear you have to negotiate simple things like - Sorting accommodation problems, lifts to train stations etc. and good on you for that... but surely a well organised company would not have to rely on < fill in your position > to manage in this way.. it shows a real dislocation with the workforce and even more reason to be part of a union organisation.
Put it this way... I am about to plant vegetables in my garden.. (total cost 15 quid... ) yikes says I... thats a lot of money to pay out... however, I end up with lots more vegtables, I know they are ethically grown with no carrot cruelty and save myself money in the long run, as well as knowing that I can bore people with my humerous odd shaped parsnip story - add to that I will be able to join others at teh village show in August and meet with other people... share tips and hints and again bore people with my humerous odd shaped parsnip story.
it is an investment in the future... it is not a tax or cash that could better be spent on a pack of fags or a pint... it is an investment in a future. You talk about need those savings to pay for staying alive, keeping a roof over my head and keeping my car running and a pension!..... I understand you have a permanent job, so this is a poor state to be in and sympathise with those that may be temporary... (ps... no work, the subs go to circa 50p a week) - with your employer contribution to the pension, that should not be too bad... but lets be honest... if this is where you are now... its not looking good for your future is it... if you barely survive as it is, then its not going to get better... or could it?
Be happy in your condition... or change it