4th November 2005, 08:14 PM
Ditto-quite an interesting thread this...
Really just wanted to expand a bit on Eggies comments if I may.
I`m not entirely sure what being "English" means.Up until about the first Century BC the island was(for thousands of years) host to a multitude of tribal communities.The English label really has no validity until the 6th/7th Centuries ADish and even then-related to a small percentage of the population.Whilst I understand Eggies frustration regarding the denegration of the "English"-I would rather see the focus of such pointed squarely at the past and present behaviour of the English state-not the masses.I personally think this is a healthy exercise and about time too.I don`t do flags or borders and, critiscism that results in change for the better is fine by me.As an aside-Nelson....
Yep- a damned fine tactician and for a wee slip of a bloke, he had extremely large testicles, I have every admiration for the man(my family is related to Admiral Collingwood) but...here`s an alternative perception......the French had taken aristocracy/monarchy and associated silliness quite literally out into the streets and cut it`s ugly head off.Enter the French Republic.Nelson could be seen as a man who fought to the death in order to secure the position of the English aristocracy/monarchy.This all depends on who`s eyes one chooses to see "English" history through does it not? This of course relates directly to the thread, if we are to attract ethnic minorities to the discipline of Human behavioural studies, we need to borrow different eyes sometimes..............
Really just wanted to expand a bit on Eggies comments if I may.
I`m not entirely sure what being "English" means.Up until about the first Century BC the island was(for thousands of years) host to a multitude of tribal communities.The English label really has no validity until the 6th/7th Centuries ADish and even then-related to a small percentage of the population.Whilst I understand Eggies frustration regarding the denegration of the "English"-I would rather see the focus of such pointed squarely at the past and present behaviour of the English state-not the masses.I personally think this is a healthy exercise and about time too.I don`t do flags or borders and, critiscism that results in change for the better is fine by me.As an aside-Nelson....
Yep- a damned fine tactician and for a wee slip of a bloke, he had extremely large testicles, I have every admiration for the man(my family is related to Admiral Collingwood) but...here`s an alternative perception......the French had taken aristocracy/monarchy and associated silliness quite literally out into the streets and cut it`s ugly head off.Enter the French Republic.Nelson could be seen as a man who fought to the death in order to secure the position of the English aristocracy/monarchy.This all depends on who`s eyes one chooses to see "English" history through does it not? This of course relates directly to the thread, if we are to attract ethnic minorities to the discipline of Human behavioural studies, we need to borrow different eyes sometimes..............