20th October 2008, 11:54 AM
Good reply Paul,
and agree with the sentiments
I only take issue with three points:
The original post was from Britarch.. and to my knowledge there have been no replies to this.
There is also a feeling that BAJR is a place to 'slag off the IFA' - it is not, it is a place for people to say what they feel, everyone has a fair shot, if there are comments to be made, then do people just keep quiet? And if there are praises to be sung, then the IFA are indeed praised. Hard questions are there to be asked... and answered, whether by a "fair play.. thats right and an issue needing investigated" OR (and BAJR is full of this second form of reply) by saying, I see where you are coming from, but thats not true, and this is why its not true, and now we have laid that to rest (well sometimes!)
Final point.... well, its an interesting one... you have explained about the new requirements for ROs (or RAOs if you are old fashioned
) - you took the time to say the words, to pass the information on, The IFA could have done that too... and on Britarch and on their site.... information beats hearsay everytime. It could be claimed that there is better use of time than popping onto BAJR and letting a large portion of UK archaeologists who are not in the IFA, know whats happening... but then, you could argue, that it is just that sort of thing that should be a priority. The IFA section was closed down after it fell into disuse... but it only takes a second (or ten) to pop on and put up a post.. as Kate GEary did recently. We (as BAJR) took time to respond to the IFA consultation request, giving up time to give our views and thoughts, surely its not too much to ask for the same in return?
That said, I do agree that only requesting help for diggers is perhaps to specific. As an Illustrator and Surveyor myself my heart sags at the pay on offer to us, as a field archaeologist I am sad at the conditions of many... many who now face uncertainty with layoff happening across the UK. ASking for a half-decent salary structure for all archaeologists - --- now thats something I do agree with... and ask.... whats happening to make that happen... we did the benchmarking... we got the figures, the working pary came to conclusions... SO... what now?? I hope it is not silence.
ps
(edited to add a ps)
"I don't have an archaeological imagination.."
Borekickers
and agree with the sentiments
I only take issue with three points:
The original post was from Britarch.. and to my knowledge there have been no replies to this.
There is also a feeling that BAJR is a place to 'slag off the IFA' - it is not, it is a place for people to say what they feel, everyone has a fair shot, if there are comments to be made, then do people just keep quiet? And if there are praises to be sung, then the IFA are indeed praised. Hard questions are there to be asked... and answered, whether by a "fair play.. thats right and an issue needing investigated" OR (and BAJR is full of this second form of reply) by saying, I see where you are coming from, but thats not true, and this is why its not true, and now we have laid that to rest (well sometimes!)
Final point.... well, its an interesting one... you have explained about the new requirements for ROs (or RAOs if you are old fashioned
) - you took the time to say the words, to pass the information on, The IFA could have done that too... and on Britarch and on their site.... information beats hearsay everytime. It could be claimed that there is better use of time than popping onto BAJR and letting a large portion of UK archaeologists who are not in the IFA, know whats happening... but then, you could argue, that it is just that sort of thing that should be a priority. The IFA section was closed down after it fell into disuse... but it only takes a second (or ten) to pop on and put up a post.. as Kate GEary did recently. We (as BAJR) took time to respond to the IFA consultation request, giving up time to give our views and thoughts, surely its not too much to ask for the same in return?That said, I do agree that only requesting help for diggers is perhaps to specific. As an Illustrator and Surveyor myself my heart sags at the pay on offer to us, as a field archaeologist I am sad at the conditions of many... many who now face uncertainty with layoff happening across the UK. ASking for a half-decent salary structure for all archaeologists - --- now thats something I do agree with... and ask.... whats happening to make that happen... we did the benchmarking... we got the figures, the working pary came to conclusions... SO... what now?? I hope it is not silence.
ps
Quote:quote:and it is illegal for the IfA or anyone else to set a wage/pricing structure.So the minimum rates for PIFA, AIFA and MIFA .. what are they then? and if they enforce these, why not a more refined version (BAJR grades-like) I agree that salaries are just one part... training, job security (ha!) self worth, .. there are many, big one for field archs? actually having a job at Xmas.. or having a house, or having a family, or anything that we with fulltime jobs can have.
(edited to add a ps)
"I don't have an archaeological imagination.."
Borekickers