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Wessex grasp the nettle of non-Digital Photographic sustainability
#31
Who are the 'Archaeological Archives Forum' that the IFA guide (2007) was produced 'on behalf of'?
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#32
Marc Berger Wrote:Diggers can all store digital copies through their phones and don't need to care about some forgotten store room to which there is only a limited number of keys and to which they and you or I are highly unlikely to visit ever. Diggers now a days can probably keep a copy of every picture they ever take with a camera.

That's true, except how does that satisfy the discussion I had with a Curator last week about archiving and accessibility? Every digger may have a phone with more computing power than NASA when they put a man on the moon, but nobody else can access it (even them if they lose/squash it). The whole point of archiving is to allow somebody down the line to get the data out and look at it afresh.
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#33
Sith Wrote:That's true, except how does that satisfy the discussion I had with a Curator last week about archiving and accessibility? Every digger may have a phone with more computing power than NASA when they put a man on the moon, but nobody else can access it (even them if they lose/squash it). The whole point of archiving is to allow somebody down the line to get the data out and look at it afresh.

Equally if the digger gets squashed there are problems getting access to the data of a deceased individual.
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#34
Dinosaur Wrote:Who are the 'Archaeological Archives Forum' that the IFA guide (2007) was produced 'on behalf of'?

A confederation (?) that includes EH, IfA, Society of Museum Archaeologists, CBA, ADS, ALGAO, FAME, RCAHMS, Arts Council, ICON.....sounds pretty much like it has corporate hospitality writ large!
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#35
I agree Sith but digital does not need these curators any more. Dump your film on them and wave goodbye. The Wessex draft policy says

Quote: While the archival stability of digital imaging has not yet been proven to the same degree as film, there is now considered to be no advantage of analogue over digital imaging as an archival format. Any archive requires appropriate management to ensure its survival, and with digital information there is no reason why it cannot be preserved indefinitely. Digital imaging in fact provides a number of benefits, such as multiple backups, ease of access and considerable space savings.
I don't know how Wessex work out the no advantage of analogue over digital but the archival quality of digital is in the so called backup or copy. The museum curation of an original film/picture eventually as the film degraded probably relied on making a copy and then treating that as an original and protecting it from the next nuclear war. I don't see anybody doing that anymore. Its just unreasonably expensive. With digital we can make hundreds a copies at the outset and daily for evermore and expect that a copy will survive the next catastrophe in some corner of the internet. In the Wessex model it mentions ads as the archive for digital images
Quote:With the above in mind, WA policy will be to rely on digital imaging to provide the sole photographic archive for any Terrestrial Fieldwork or Built Heritage project in England and Wales. This policy is in line with standards produced by English Heritage, the Institute for Archaeologists, the Archaeological Archives Forum and the London Archaeological Archive Research Centre. Images will be captured in a RAW format using cameras with manual controls and sensors of at least 10 megapixels. Images will then be converted to uncompressed baseline v.6 TIFF for archiving. All images will have accompanying metadata specifying; photo ID, capture device, converting software, colour space, bit depth, resolution, date of capture, photographer, caption, and any alterations made to the image. As part of this policy, provision will be made for the long term archiving of digital images with the Archaeological Data Service.
but digital data has to be archived in as many internet places as possible and interestingly the diggers identity is part of the authenticity. Diggers probably couldn't do better than to use their phones to load their photos directly to face book.

It would be nice if somebody from Wessex could confirm that they defiantly don't use analogue anymore.
.....nature was dead and the past does not exist
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#36
Marc Berger Wrote:It would be nice if somebody from Wessex could confirm that they defiantly don't use analogue anymore.
Defies belief....
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#37
with fists raised perchance?
If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about answers
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#38
kevin wooldridge Wrote:A confederation (?) that includes EH, IfA, Society of Museum Archaeologists, CBA, ADS, ALGAO, FAME, RCAHMS, Arts Council, ICON.....sounds pretty much like it has corporate hospitality writ large!

Cheers! - had always wondered about that, while cutting-and-pasting :face-approve:
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#39
Does anybody on bajr know if Wessex have stopped producing wet chemistry photography?
.....nature was dead and the past does not exist
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#40
North of the border we don't take colour slide or B&W print photographs, and haven't done for a long time. Our national archive repository doesn't take slide or print film any more (from new projects, obviously with historic projects that will be all that is available to archive) and so we archive digital only, and none of the curators up here insist on slide/B&W. Hasn't caused us any problems so far. The end of the world is not nigh. Taking photos in RAW format uses up massive amounts of memory/data storage, as do tiffs, and I personally see no great concern with continuing to use standard jpegs.
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