14th April 2013, 09:56 PM
Dinosaur Wrote:Wasn't actually inconvenienced by any of those, and never saw the objection to the community charge, why should you pay more to have your bin emptied just because you earn more? people moan about taxes being unfair, that was one of the fairest taxes ever suggested, everyone pays the same for the same services? Council tax is grossly unfair, why should you pay more just because of your postcode?
Ordinarily I'd let this slide, but as we all know "history forgotten is history you're doomed to repeat"...
Before the Poll Tax, folks who owned things paid into the local Rates that supported public services (like the bins) as well as maintained the basic physical fabric of society. This was an extension of the old "noblesse oblige" principle whereby the nobs were supposed to support those under their stewardship. For poor folk renting a bedsit, the landlord paid the Rates out of what he charged in rent (supposedly). Everybody still paid Income Tax, based on their salary - it had nothing to do with Rates (or Poll tax).
Then Maggie came along and proposed a system whereby everybody over the Age of Consent paid the same amount to maintain civilisation, whether they were poor digger scroats crammed in six to a flat in an area where the Council spent zilch on the roads and other communal infrastructure, or a wealthy Banker rattling around his weekend mansion in the leafy suburbs before heading back to his penthouse in the City. This was particularly great for landlords - they no longer had to pay Rates on all their rental properties out of the rents they collected, and could just pocket the savings! Sadly the poor digger scroats found that they were still paying the same amount of rent each (no reduction for the ending of Rates - apparently "a rent increase was long overdue"), but also had to fork out this new Poll Tax on top. The rich got richer...
I was in Scotland at the time, and witnessed an entire nation sitting down and simply refusing to play along to this carpet-bagging tune.
The current Community Charge (or Council Tax) at least attempts to land the bulk of social responsibility for paying on those who own more stuff, so you pay more if your house is bigger. There are still far too many tax-dodging loopholes for the "hard-pressed" rich, but at least it got us away from Maggie's attempt at social revolution - the kind that all too easily lends French wax sculptresses a whole new career! Now if only we could get a proper amount of Income Tax out of the filthy rich...