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Southport - support or betrayal?

There is talk that the Southport group are pushing for increased volunteer access to commercial work (which on the face of it sounds reasonable, given that archaeology is for all? - And creating a universal standard and guidance for this to happen as the norm - watching brief sites excepted - would be good for all. )

The key elements are access and participation. Access is one thing, participation is another. With a volunteer workforce, will they be there t 7:30am every day (including the ones when the rain is coming down? ) Will they work til 5pm? even on a rota, will they be reliable. On a commercial site you need to know who is where and how many and when.

The next is what they will do? SUrvey? draw? pot wash (aaaaarg) dig?

Will they need IfA membership ( cynical.... moi)

Will the cost of commercial excavation come down, because a 5 person dig will become 2 person dig plus three volunteers ( however the 2 diggers must now ensure that the work down by the 3 volunteers.. ah hell lets make it 5 volunteers... after all that now gives you an even larger team! ... is up to the required standard. )

I suspect there are more.

Anyway, there won't be anyone left to check the work anyway, by the time the Big society has removed the heritage curators and Planning constraints.

It would be damn useful if the IfA or Southport Group came on BAJR and explained to the archaeologists what is going on. Though one suspects, they may read this, but be unable to reply.

Below is the section from the Southports webpage. Read it, read it again.

Recommendations for improving historic environment practice - the Southport Group seeks your views
The Southport Group has launched an online public consultation to gather opinion on a ground-breaking draft report that outlines recommendations and products for improving historic environment practice to ensure delivery of consistent excellence in public benefit.
The consultation officially launches at the IfA Conference on 13 April and runs until 3 June 2011. All content can be found on this webpage.
The draft report considers key areas of planning-led investigation of the historic environment, identifies obstacles to optimum delivery in the past, presents a vision for new ways of working under PPS5 principles, and makes detailed practical recommendations to reach that vision. The impetus for change stems from the 2010 publication of Planning Policy Statement 5, which offers an extraordinary and rare opportunity for the historic environment sector to ensure its work is truly driven by the interests of what has been discovered or lost and that its overall purpose is the realisation of public benefit.
The consultation asks respondents to provide written feed-back on whether they endorse the report visions, recommendations and proposed products, and to suggest any changes or additional commendations/products before the June deadline. Comments will help to shape the final report due to launch in July 2011.
Organisations assigned with actions in the report recommendations will be approached over coming weeks and asked if they wish to endorse the visions and commit, insofar as resources allow, to the recommendations subject to any changes they propose. The intention is for key sector bodies to indicate, at the launch of the final report in July, their intention to implement the report?s recommendations.
Comments on the report should be emailed to by 3 June.
Report summary

The publication of Planning Policy Statement 5 by the Department of Communities and Local Government (2010), alongside a strong and insightful Government vision statement on the historic environment (DCMS 2010) offers an extraordinary and rare opportunity ? of the sort that comes along only once or twice in a professional lifetime.
This draft report has been prepared as a response to that opportunity, by a small working party of historic environment professionals ? the Southport Group ? that was formed following a debate at the Institute for Archaeologists? conference in Southport in April 2010. It takes account of contributions made in a series of open workshops and an online consultation. It is being circulated now for comment and, with the benefit of further public consultation and open debate at forthcoming professional conferences, a final report will be published in July 2011.
The intended audience for the final report is all those with the power to shape England?s historic environment. Its purpose is to draw on the accumulated expertise and experience of historic environment professionals, and those who fund planning-led investigation and understanding of the historic environment, so that the opportunity may best be realised.
Ultimately, the underlying principles of PPS5 and the Government Statement paint a vision of the future where planning-led investigation of the historic environment delivers far greater rewards and far more immediately recognisable benefits for society as a whole than ever before. Even if or when PPS5 is absorbed into the National Heritage Planning Framework, as anticipated will take place later this year, those principles are set to endure.
This draft report sets out the key findings during consultation to date and the emerging vision for public involvement and participation, research, the use of archived and published results, how historic environment sector professionals operate and what the property and development sector should gain. Based on the vision, it makes a series of recommendations which, the Group believes, will provide the sector with the tools it needs to implement the principles of PPS5.
The report calls for more effective collaboration and partnership working among heritage sector bodies to rationalise and strengthen activities and create a powerful, unified voice that encourages public, government and media engagement and support. It outlines a vision for the sector where management of the historic environment is a partnership between local authorities and community groups and where decisions proactively, confidently and genuinely take account of public values and concerns.
A post-Southport world would see a sector that consistently adds value to development by contributing to the sustainable development agenda, to design, brand, place-shaping, securing consents, risk management, PR, CSR, marketing and sales/rental values. The vision is that commercial investigation and explanation of the historic environment should be commissioned and conducted in a way that makes public participation the norm not the exception. Meanwhile commercial and voluntary practitioners should increasingly recognise and comply with professional standards so that all are encouraged to acquire new skills and accreditation.
Development-led research into the historic environment should be a collaborative venture involving commercially-funded, local authority, higher education and the voluntary sector. It should be focused on interpretation, understanding and significance, not record. In all cases decisions should be founded on sound knowledge derived from HERs mediated by expert professionals, and from proportionate and appropriate professional research, commissioned by the applicant, into the interests of a place and its significance.
This draft report contains 27 recommendations for a toolkit of possible products for achieving the Southport vision. All require sector endorsement if they are to take effect and bring about long-term change. Once agreement has been reached and the organisations assigned with crucial actions have pledged their support, then full product descriptions will be drafted into the final report and it will be the responsibility of all in the sector to adopt the recommendations and products into their working methods.

PPS5 demands a strong commitment to change. It will undoubtedly be challenging at both personal and institutional levels. The PPS5 principles require the historic environment sector to work in new ways: ways which are far more rewarding for society as a whole and far more satisfying for those who commission it and those who carry it out. This would be a great prize for any profession and it is within our grasp. The authors of this report hope that the sector, by responding to this draft, will seize the opportunity to shape the future.
The full report can be downloaded here.

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Southport - support or betrayal? - by BAJR - 17th April 2011, 09:55 AM

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