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The European Landscape Convention - GnomeKing - 20th June 2016

The European Landscape Convention:
http://www.coe.int/en/web/landscape/home
Do we risk loss of this protection for Heritage, Communities and Landscape?
Can we remain signatories if the UK votes Leave?&
Do we want to see Archaeology across Europe protected in a similar manner to our own in the UK?

Discuss....


The European Landscape Convention - GnomeKing - 21st June 2016

READ THIS EXCELLENT ARTICLE FROM Doug;

https://dougsarchaeology.wordpress.what-brexit-or-exit-will-mean-for-archaeology-

https://dougsarchaeology.wordpress.com/2016/06/20/what-brexit-or-exit-will-mean-for-archaeology-really-all-of-the-uk/

no really > get of this page, and go read it (properly) NOW !!!

:face-rain:


The European Landscape Convention - Mike.T. - 21st June 2016

The fact that Boris is against HS2 is completely irrelevant to the Brexit discussion. So presumably he would be ok if he was pro - Europe !? Also there is no evidence whatsoever that Leave politicians are '' anti infrastructure projects''. Where have they stated this ? They haven't.

The financial analysts predicting post Brexit doom and gloom recession are probably the same ones who completely failed to predict the last one.


The European Landscape Convention - Marc Berger - 22nd June 2016

As in no more boom and bust, I wonder what brown is predicting for the leavers http://labourlist.org/2016/05/browns-sweeping-speech-made-a-passionate-case-for-the-left-to-stay-in-the-eu/


The European Landscape Convention - Doug - 22nd June 2016

Mike.T. Wrote:The fact that Boris is against HS2 is completely irrelevant to the Brexit discussion. So presumably he would be ok if he was pro - Europe !? Also there is no evidence whatsoever that Leave politicians are '' anti infrastructure projects''. Where have they stated this ? They haven't.

Thank you for the feedback Mike. It is a problem with writing. I can see 2000 people read it but no one commented so I assume that everyone understood the part where Boris is against HS2 and that he will be the next PM. This coupled with a massive budget hole could lead to projects being cancelled. Especially, considering there is very little benefit to the project. I will try to re-write that section to make it more clear.

Also, could you explain how you got 'Leave politicians are '' anti infrastructure projects''. I can't figure out where I wrote that. I don't want to give a false impression. If you could let me know how you came to see that as what I said I will try to edit it so there is no mistake. There are just a few Leavers who are against very specific projects.

Mike.T. Wrote:The financial analysts predicting post Brexit doom and gloom recession are probably the same ones who completely failed to predict the last one.

Ah, I think I need to add a section to this. Prediction vs Modelling. No one can do prediction. You can't predict something like the black swan event that caused the last global recession. However, you can model with knowing certain facts. To use an archaeology analogy. You do a desk-based assessment. You look at old OS maps and see that there were buildings on your site 100 years ago. Now you could excavate and find that they were completely wiped out and removed. However, you budget for finding at least foundations and artefacts. What artefacts? You can't predict exactly that you will find 32 buttons but 99 out 100 times you will find something. This is modelling. You can't give exact predictions but you can give ranges of possible finds and thus you budget your project accordingly. This is financial modelling- we can't say GDP will fall exactly 2.58674% but we can say it will fall within a range and be correct.

Hope that clears up your concerns with it.


The European Landscape Convention - P Prentice - 22nd June 2016

nicely done doug.
i had hoped for a little more brexit badinage and would have accepted odds on the leanings of us forum holdouts but what i cant fathom is why unit hasnt (a)mused on the subject? has she been redacted dyaknow?


The European Landscape Convention - Marc Berger - 23rd June 2016

As I understand it unit was never in so cant leave

"So in summary, Brexit will either be bad for archaeology or really bad for archaeology."

In or out what I want is for Reasons on Decision Notices to contain field archaeologist reasons for the Condition. You will know that it is a field archaeologists reason because it will have a requirement using either the word "evaluation", "watching brief" or "excavation" and will not require any post decision brief to be manufactured.

Also I think that unit is in prison so I am not sure that unit gets a vote


The European Landscape Convention - Marc Berger - 28th June 2016

We will only know when we are out when the landscape changes http://ec.europa.eu/agriculture/direct-support/greening/index_en.htm


The European Landscape Convention - P Prentice - 28th June 2016

jack boot treads reading 'i am not a racist but.....' will also deny the need for evaluation. oh well, zero hours for the proletariat will keep them in place. suckers


The European Landscape Convention - Marc Berger - 29th June 2016

Everything is an evaluation. This is so much about zero hour jack boots, more like passport design. In today's hop on a plane a million people in the air world what half the people, 48%, want is as many passports as they can get. Lets call them the internationals and multinationals. The other half stay at homes surrounded by bits of remnant ridge and furrow, can't keep up. Just, with 52%. What's probably probably, funny or sad, is the numbers of janus flints, dual nationalities, in that motley crew of 52.

Used to be that you had to put your occupation on your passport, they (I don't remember who but I expect that they were remotly elected and there was no referendum) stopped that and now Circle turned and somebody wants a points system, but I presume that in this brave new world that we shall be made to put our DNA and to be certain of our motherland or is that tongue our mitrocondrial as well if the NHS has a vote in it. I am not sure if the actual passport would have your signature signed in blood along side a silicon chip with your full genome but these are details that will have to be agreed in the next two years along side all these glass bead trade agreements that the internationals keep withering on about. Now let me tell you about trade, round my bit of the midlands they want to charge me for my archive and have free rights to all my copyright to do with as they wish which is mainly to put it on the world wide web and go off and collect their pension. But I am not bitter, I have means of production and at this time of year have stocked my demijohns up to the max, although the temperatures this year are a bit disappointing, in anticipation of the games ahead.

Meanwhile in the background it appears that the founder mentalists have attacked an international Turkish airport and would appear to want to disrupt the modern means of mass movement, the very same through which potential spouses sort their company. Is it cause they like the baptism that is boat travel and the opportunity that plane travel does not so easily afford which is the opportunity to discard the passport. Seems a bit of this landscape might have found its way to the British museum http://www.britishmuseum.org/research/collection_online/collection_object_details.aspx?objectId=3691920&partId=1&searchText=cross+lampedusa&page=1

How did that happen? It's one year old although dendro would possible put half a century on it if there is any sap wood. Although I understand that the BM is some exempt secret charity thingy based on the lotto does the 1964 Public Libraries and Museum Act apply to them when they purchase objects or source funding to run their central London lets keep the worlds treasures operation an accessible target for anybody who has a justification that only roughly half the Peoples might hold? I think that the BM should set up some security with guns passport control system to get in or is that the change in the landscape this object foretells? Can't help but feel that it has something to do with Janus but apart from noting two faced flints I am no historian but could it be that setting up a passport control system will need funding and so resort to the 1964 Act.

And as a note on the tariffs charged by the museums round my way for my so called donations http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-35120004