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site tech role - moreno - 15th June 2011
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kevin wooldridge Wrote:In many ways the Skills Passport would duplicate the IFA levels of competence (where the basic level would equate to PIFA and higher levels to AIFA and MIFA). I am guessing that anyone who had applied to and received peer recognition for their skills level through IFA membership would automatically gain a 'fully operative' Skills Passport.....otherwise it seems unlikely that the IFA would support the scheme...and then once again the scheme would be open to the criticism currently levelled at some IFA members (i.e they only attained their grading through colleagues, friends and relatives).... So to that extent it is a conundrum wrapped in a riddle etc etc
I don’t think this would be completely the case. I don’t see IFA grades as levels of competence per se. I would agree with competence in meeting certain criteria, but to reiterate a “red” herring along with the subsequent comments on the matter. As for the IFA grades being peer reviewed, I struggle with this. Hypothetically-A MIFA level curator with little or no field experience a peer?
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site tech role - moreno - 15th June 2011
kevin wooldridge Wrote:In many ways the Skills Passport would duplicate the IFA levels of competence (where the basic level would equate to PIFA and higher levels to AIFA and MIFA). I am guessing that anyone who had applied to and received peer recognition for their skills level through IFA membership would automatically gain a 'fully operative' Skills Passport.....otherwise it seems unlikely that the IFA would support the scheme...and then once again the scheme would be open to the criticism currently levelled at some IFA members (i.e they only attained their grading through colleagues, friends and relatives).... So to that extent it is a conundrum wrapped in a riddle etc etc
I don’t think this would be completely the case. I don’t see IFA grades as levels of competence per se. I would agree with competence in meeting certain criteria, but to reiterate a “red” herring along with the subsequent comments on the matter. As for the IFA grades being peer reviewed, I struggle with this assertion. Hypothetically-A MIFA level curator with little or no field experience a peer?
Perhaps “we” should consider a transparent selection of a pool of individuals, representative of the professional spectrum.
site tech role - moreno - 15th June 2011
BAJR Wrote:Ah.... the skills passport is more like a stepping stone to IfA membership as well as a handy dandy document that validates skills. (like CPD ish)
PIFA AIFA and MIFA are (in my opinion) a red herring with Project Managers being AIFAs and some field workers as MiFA I even know a Curator who is a PIFA.
Given that an illustrator can be a MIfA but could not run a site it is all confused.
Preferably the skills passport should stand on its own merit as a validation of skills, not a recruitment drive for IFA membership. If this was the case, why bother? Simply join the IFA.
site tech role - BAJR - 15th June 2011
Sorry... some people may have lost some posts
All part of my system move... beware disruption over the next few days
site tech role - BAJR - 15th June 2011
Managed to get page 12 back!!
site tech role - BAJR - 15th June 2011
Quote:Preferably the skills passport should stand on its own merit as a validation of skills,
So would I. However. anyone got a spare few tens of thousands to help pay for it
WEbsite (c. 10k) Passports (5 quid each) validation.. checking etc with posts and messages (5k per year) 2 admin people ( circa 50k ) computers, office etc hmmmm gonna cost
site tech role - GnomeKing - 16th June 2011
@ Dino
just because the IFA has done poorly in the past at representing excavation/site skills, doesn't mean it cant in future....
clearly people in your position are prime candidates for effecting this change (e.g. in one of Morenos' "pools", or as a fu
site tech role - Unitof1 - 24th June 2011
dony worry about them gnomeking-just hold onto your own creative ownership even if others denigh it (you will of course remain poor like me for ever)
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@ Dino
just because the IFA has done poorly in the past at representing excavation/site skills, doesn't mean it cant in future....
I am afraid that the past poor performance does mean that it will get only get worser-give it up its run by pension grabbers
site tech role - GnomeKing - 24th June 2011
make em work for it
(scribblies)
site tech role - Unitof1 - 24th June 2011
they dont ever change thier spots, born by the pension die by the pension...