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Translating Welsh Placenames into English - BAJR Host - 19th September 2009

Translating Welsh Placenames into English

Anybody up for this?? or know someone?

I have a person asking.

Translating Welsh Placenames into English - trowelmonkey - 19th September 2009

Place-names, slippery little b****rs!

It might be worth contacting the Welsh Dept at the University of Wales:

http://www.aber.ac.uk/cymraeg-welsh/index.html

asking if any post-grad might be interested in this for the glory of research.

Translating Welsh Placenames into English - TRL - 20th September 2009

Ordnance Survey have a pretty good list of translations for most things you'll come across Here

Theres also this but that one can be a little hit and miss.

I've forgotten most of the little Welsh I knew but depending on the amount I could possibly help.

On the line of Welsh departments, there are departments in Aberystwyth, Bangor & Lampeter.

Hope that helps.

Translating Welsh Placenames into English - Misty - 20th September 2009

Wikipedia has a basic list of the main elements in Welsh place names - and links to others.

Translating Welsh Placenames into English - Mattymooface - 20th September 2009

I'll ask my dad, is there money involved

Translating Welsh Placenames into English - BAJR Host - 20th September 2009

I'll ask me friend..

thats a brilliant load of contacts.. thanks

Translating Welsh Placenames into English - matholwch - 20th September 2009

Be careful about trying to translate placenames without first collecting earlier examples of the name and variants of the spelling. In literary Welsh North Walian forms became the standard through the influence of the translation ofthe bible in the 16th and 17th century. Various dialects remained in use and are still in use and placename evidence is important for mapping isoglosses. Some placenames were sanitised in the 18th century through the influence of non-conformity, 19th century antiquarians sometimes romanticised placenames or gave them false etyma. Finally the orthography was revised by Sir John Morris Jones in the early 20th century and has been simplified since.

Translating Welsh Placenames into English - trowelmonkey - 20th September 2009

Slippery b*****rs. If it's integral to the project find a postgrad with an interest in place-names, including a healthy suspicion of learned old men! :face-angel:

Translating Welsh Placenames into English - matholwch - 21st September 2009

Try the University of Bangor Archif Melville Richards Place-name Database or if you prefer Canolfan Ymchwil Enwau Lleoedd. The Tir Cymun Projects were supposed to collect place-name evidence I do not know how successfull this was.

Translating Welsh Placenames into English - Windbag - 21st September 2009

Another useful link:

http://www.cs.cf.ac.uk/fun/welsh/LexiconForms.html

Much more flexible than the UW Lampeter dictionary