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agenda for bajr conference - rachstebbs - 24th October 2005
Well its probably not what you have in mind, but I'm willing to put a students view of a career in archaeology across. happy to collaborate with any other students or very recent graduates out there
I think in the next few years there is going to be a massive increase in arch graduates going into commercial work and yet after being on placement I've realised my degree doesn't teach the simple practical stuff you need to know. could get quite interesting...
agenda for bajr conference - Cautionary Tale - 25th October 2005
I think thats precisely what needs discussing (have a look around the BAJR forum). Seek out others and brainstorm
(I really have worked in the field)
agenda for bajr conference - BAJR Host - 25th October 2005
Well here is a debate to have at the conference...
a full debate.. with arguements and counter arguements
What should be the real level pay rates...
you decide... and back it up with why and how it works... and I will move in a way that reflects what is expected..
it has to be a well researched and backed arguement though... as the next pay levels come in on the 1st of April each year.. and I have to justify ... So theres soemthing worth debating.. What are you really worth!
Another day another WSI?
agenda for bajr conference - troll - 26th October 2005
Rachstebbs-Blinding! Have met a few newbies recently and already they have an awful lot to say! Think your collaboration idea is a cracker and I can`t wait! Don`t forget-you guys and girls are the future of British archaeology......
agenda for bajr conference - sniper - 26th October 2005
was having a chat with a volunteer at work this morning, trying to get some experience before she even goes to Uni. She did look shocked when I told her that I came out of Uni with no idea of how to do my job. Maybe if we could get a survey done, or something, on people's expectations of what an archaeology course should include, before they have been to uni and been faced with the reality...
++ i spend my days rummaging around in dead people ++
agenda for bajr conference - rachstebbs - 27th October 2005
Well then email me or post a reply if you wanna work with me, any input would be welcomed.
agenda for bajr conference - Louloubelle - 27th October 2005
I had a rather worrying conversation with an undergraduate at college the other day, who told me he wanted to go into field work after he graduated in June. I asked him how much experience he had, and he looked non plussed.
I did the same degree many moons ago, and we all ended up with 60 days field experience, which is hopeless if you want a job when you graduate - The industry will end up with clueless dippos like what I was unless students can afford to do more voluntary work in holidays etc. Realistically though, most students are having to do paid work thanks to financial hardship. Its great some colleges are providing a year work experience, but lobbying universities to provide more work experience for their students could be a good move forward.
On the odd occasion I feel quite bitter that I am having to pay a fortune for this MA to learn the stuff I should have been taught years ago.
So where these ramblings are going is - Can the BAJR conference look at the issue of the next generation of students, and whether anything practical can be done to try and influence things?
agenda for bajr conference - the invisible man - 27th October 2005
60 days equals 12 weeks - way above the norm for fieldwork at a British university! We discussed this a while ago, and the amount of fielwork required by unis for your first degree tends to vary between zero and four weeks, with one or two at 6 weeks. Yours (UCL???) at 12 weeks is a shining example, a beacon of light.
Today, Bradford. Tomorrow, well, Bradford probably.
agenda for bajr conference - Louloubelle - 27th October 2005
Even at that beacon of light it still only adds up to 3 months. Hardly a foot in the door!
agenda for bajr conference - kevin wooldridge - 27th October 2005
Quote:quote:Originally posted by BAJR Host
What should be the real level pay rates...you decide... and back it up with why and how it works... and I will move in a way that reflects what is expected..it has to be a well researched and backed arguement though... as the next pay levels come in on the 1st of April each year.. and I have to justify ... So theres soemthing worth debating.. What are you really worth!
I have just finished writing a piece for the next Diggers Forum newsletter on what the current average advertised wage of the lowest grade archaeologist, supervisor and project officer is, why the lowest archaeological salary should be ?300 per week, and how the IFA can help to raise that to a minimum of ?360 per week by 2012. If the DF decide not to use this (or the next newsletter is a very long time coming out), I am happy to make text available to BAJR Baiters.