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Job Losses in Archaeology - matthew.law - 9th February 2009

Did you see this?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/property/propertynews/4569833/Archaeologists-lose-their-jobs-as-recession-bites.html

1 in 5 by the end of the year they say?

'Kenneth Aitchison, head of projects for the Institute for Archaeologists, said anyone who was made redundant by the cuts would have to find a "whole new career".'

Sad


Job Losses in Archaeology - YellowPete - 9th February 2009


what, who and where is the top of the food chain?

if we are waiting for the principles to have the confidence to go, then which are the ones we are waiting to see how they go with the wind?

or is that a competition question?



txt
Mike


Job Losses in Archaeology - BAJR Host - 10th February 2009

The client and the public

?When a sinister person means to be your enemy, they always start by trying to become your friend.?
William Blake


Job Losses in Archaeology - YellowPete - 10th February 2009


To be honest I think its still far too early to start chopping up the industry.

There is still alot of data to come in, from alot of different areas, that aren't even vaguely broached by the professional study.

Firstly, it's an 'Institute For Archaeologists'.

If we think this is it, then we are really looking at it as though we are ring fencing off archaeological jobs from everyone without.

We can't accuse EH or LG jobs being taken before interveiw, if we aren't even thinking that we are doing the same thing.
We are just doing it on a larger scale, instead of a post, by post basis.

If we are going to voice 'the slow down', or 'shut down', shouldn't we really say 'the slow shut out'?

IFA Mission Statement
'The IfA exists to advance the practice of archaeology and allied disciplines by promoting professional standards and ethics for conserving, managing, understanding and promoting enjoyment of heritage.'

Secondly, what about the archaeologists working abroad, who lived and worked here? The archaeologists that were forced to look for work outside of the UK and have continued to practice discipline abroad.

Thirdly, the IFA aside:
Welcome to the professional world of shutting down 'educational academic interest' and emphasising 'skilled' manual labour (only archaeologists need apply).

Fourth, what about the graduates who will not be able to stay in the job, if they got one in the first place?
They're not even off the starting block here.


Come on, there are more of us than we are thinking there are.



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Mike


Job Losses in Archaeology - kevin wooldridge - 10th February 2009

Quote:quote:Originally posted by YellowPete

Secondly, what about the archaeologists working abroad, who lived and worked here? The archaeologists that were forced to look for work outside of the UK and have continued to practice discipline abroad.

Forced to work abroad?

Some kind of government deportation scheme for archaeologists.... Kinda like old fashioned transportation. Tell me more...

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With peace and consolation hath dismist, And calm of mind all passion spent...



Job Losses in Archaeology - YellowPete - 10th February 2009


I remember when I was a lowly undergraduate, watching people going to Ireland, when it was the only place, where you could cut your teeth, to get the experience, to get a job here.

If you find yourself happy there, then you stay.

There was also the major loss of field staff to Ireland again, when Heathrow T5's major works finished, which meant that, there was again a gluttony of staff and not enough jobs to float them. So they when to where the work was again.

Sounds like the establishment, used to pushing people from pillar to post, through protectionism.

The Irish Archaeological economy may also be in the same boat, so expect a doubling effect on the field unemployed and so on.......



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Mike


Job Losses in Archaeology - Paul Belford - 10th February 2009

Sorry, off topic, but is there any truth in the now well-established urban myth that large chunks of the Irish archaeological archive (context sheets and so-on) are actually written in Polish?


Job Losses in Archaeology - YellowPete - 10th February 2009

quoting BAJR Host
'The client and the public'

Which are the principle industry leaders for different development types?

Is the public, the public's confidence in the economy, and their willing new to start buying houses again, to start restabilising the property/ housing market, along side the banks being willing to offer loans, correlating more closely with interest rates set by the Bank of England's 1%.



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Mike


Job Losses in Archaeology - BAJR Host - 10th February 2009

Quote:quote:Which are the principle industry leaders for different development types?

You tell me :face-huh:

?When a sinister person means to be your enemy, they always start by trying to become your friend.?
William Blake


Job Losses in Archaeology - Paul Belford - 11th February 2009

"Archaeology and the global financial crisis"

A thought-provoking and broader perspective on these issues in Antiquity Vol 83 Issue 319 (March 2009).