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Make a Planning Frame - Dirty Dave Lincoln - 13th January 2009
quote "concrete reinforcement utilised for planning frames has been banned on H & S grounds on several sites to my knowledge!!!"
Why?[?]
Make a Planning Frame - monty - 13th January 2009
Not a recognised piece of equipment!!!!! yes really !!!!!!!!!!
Make a Planning Frame - RedEarth - 13th January 2009
Quote:quote:Originally posted by monty
Not a recognised piece of equipment!!!!! yes really !!!!!!!!!!
Not recognised by who? Have you had to pass through an airport x-ray thingy on the way to site - "Does not compute!"
Surely by that logic most archaeological 'equipment' would be banned on H&S grounds: trowels - not designed for scraping (especially something as solid and wrist-knackering as soil) but for applying plaster, mattocks intended for hacking out large areas of soil not neatly hacking out largely areas of soil (erm), paint brushes (if anyone actually uses them) for painting etc.
Make a Planning Frame - monty - 13th January 2009
Not recognised by construction company Health and Safety Officer !! Al other equipment mentioned by Redearth is standard equipment and is recognised as such by H & S types........
Make a Planning Frame - Dirty Dave Lincoln - 13th January 2009
Considering that metal planning frames have been used on many sites without a single problem,it seems to me thats its just some (not all) construction companies that object. Surely to ban the use of an object on the grounds of H & S then a reason should be given, otherwise depending on which construct company your contracted by they could make implementing your job as difficult as they like.
Make a Planning Frame - monty - 13th January 2009
quote:
originally posted by Dirty Dave Lincoln
'....they can make implementing your job as difficult as they like'
indeed...some can and do !!
Make a Planning Frame - beamo - 14th January 2009
How can reinforcement grid not be recognised as equipment on a construction site - it's sole purpose is to be used on construction sites and it is cut to an appropriate size for the job.
Beamo
Make a Planning Frame - Oxbeast - 14th January 2009
I suspect that if you asked the HSE they wouldn't really have a problem with it. An H&S 'manager' on a construction site might be another matter. A list of recognised equipment sounds like a nightmare; I don't suppose the conventionally built planning frame made of bits of wood and string is on such a list.
Make a Planning Frame - Sith - 14th January 2009
Quote:quote:Originally posted by BAJR Host
and pretty heavy!
As nothing to the similarlly constructed example measuring 5m by 5m that I used some years ago. I took four people to move it (safely).
I'd be very interested to know more about the 'banned' planning frames and the grounds for this. It sounds like someone needed to make a case for it being essential to your job.
D. Vader
Senior Consultant
Vader Maull & Palpatine
Archaeological Consultants
Your lack of archaeological imagination disappoints me Curator
Make a Planning Frame - RedEarth - 14th January 2009
Quote:quote:Originally posted by monty
Not recognised by construction company Health and Safety Officer !! Al other equipment mentioned by Redearth is standard equipment and is recognised as such by H & S types........
That does sound a bit like someone making it up as they go along - a planning frame made out of reinforcing mesh (used as standard by archaeologists up and down the country) is not standard equipment, a trowel not used for its intended task and quite damaging to the wrists as a result is allowed on H&S grounds because it is 'recognised'. Can't say I have ever come across such randomness. You sure they weren't pulling you leg?
It's health and saftey gone mad I tells ye! I can't believe I just said that, my wife's going to kill me! (thanks to Greg Mitchell for that one).