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"Stealing" Archaeology - RedEarth - 11th November 2008
Quote:quote:Originally posted by vulpes
'course if you were talking about metal objects this would be a legitimate hobby and therefore no problem. Have you thought about maybe complying with the relevant metal detecting code of practice. Oh, and as the law stands there is no problem doing this on scheduled sites (so long as you have the landowner's permission) - unlike metal detecting which is illegal under the act. The new HP bill seeks to criminalise removal of objects from sites which may constitute part of the site's special interest. Sounds like a harmless hobby to me.:face-stir:
Are you trying to suggest that collecting bags of post-med pottery isn't a legitimate hobby? I'll get me coat!
I always thought that removing items from a SM was illegal, whether via a metal detector or not. After all, it's not the waving a bleeping stick over the site that does the damage, and it's a short step from casually picking something up off the surface to digging it out of the ground.
"Stealing" Archaeology - Bier Keller - 12th November 2008
You have a site that has been machine stripped. All the archaeology has been done to the highest standards. You are happy that the job could not have been done better. When the D8 dozer starts moving the spoil you notice some bits of pot or flint. You stop the machine to investigate. Coming from the topsoil spoil they are unstrat or at best marked up as (1000). As such their "value" is limited. Picking out these sherds before they get trashed and lost for good cannot bad.
How often are bags marked "Unstrat" put straight in the bin without anything more than a cursory look? Personally, in my tool box I have several bits of pot and flint that have come from spoil heaps. I don't have trouble sleeping at night. Having these bits of unstrat allow me to say to newbies (who maybe know a lot about hairdressing or working in a call-centre but not a lot about digging) "This is what we are looking for...have a look, have a feel"
Archaeology is a precious resource but sometimes we can be too precious about it. Keeping a few sherds of pot which no longer have a strong stratigraphic reference (and which in all likelyhood not even warrant a mention in the report) is nothing compared to the industrialised destruction of sites that we see on a daily basis.
Just my Euro's worth
Just give me a cold Becks
"Stealing" Archaeology - BAJR Host - 12th November 2008
Nice one Beir!
absolutely...
and :face-stir: away vulpes...
The issue only arises if the person who removes from the topsoil an artefact that would never have been found anyway... does not let people know.... However.. imagine the joy of being rung up every 3 seconds... I have found a fragment of 19th century pottery.
I have found a fragment of 19th century pottery.
I have found a fragment of 19th century pottery.
I have found a fragment of 19th century pottery.
I have found a fragment of 19th century pottery.
I have found a fragment of 19th century pottery.
I have found a fragment of 19th century pottery.
I have found a fragment of 19th century pottery.
I have found a fragment of 19th century pottery.
I have found a fragment of 19th century pottery.
I have found a fragment of 19th century pottery.
ad infinitum.... aiiiiiieeeeeeeee
or
I found a nail
I found a nail
I found a shotgun cartridge
I found a tractor part
I found a nail
I found a shotgun cartridge
I found a tractor part
I found a tractor part
I found a tractor partI found a tractor part
etc.............
I would expect people who find either significant metallic finds... OR significant scatters of pottery (that may represent subsurface stratified archaeology that is currently being mixed up) to let us know... I can cope with a tiny loss, if it represents a major gain.
"I don't have an archaeological imagination.."
Borekickers
"Stealing" Archaeology - Dirty Dave Lincoln - 12th November 2008
The original question implied that the pottery is already out of situ by being surface finds or on a footpath.
If its in a field-then it might get picked up in a field walking exercise (or not, as the question stated "they are so numerous") or on a path then it will just get ground underfoot and lost anyway.