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Death to Local Archaeology? - RedEarth - 13th August 2008
Quote:quote:Originally posted by Oxbeast
I think my previous post indicates that I am in support of the charity sector in principle: I am not. I just think that they are probably the best people to work for.
I think that depends a lot on what the individual organisation is like. Having worked for a company that was a charity and spoken to people that have worked for councils I'm not sure I would chose to work for either and would stick to ltd companies.
Death to Local Archaeology? - vulpes - 13th August 2008
Quote:quote:The separation from the county does also have the advantage of ensuring that the contracting unit is separate from the curatorial organisation.
This was never a problem in Cambridgeshire, really, not at all and I've no axe to grind. Other counties, well....
Death to Local Archaeology? - Unitof1 - 13th August 2008
Quote:quote:its useful until it descends into a rant).
I'm with you on the sad end to local units but on the plus side, for the moment the local knowledge has been retained
How close is a good pub to the office?
Death to Local Archaeology? - Unitof1 - 13th August 2008
Quote:quote:Would it be wrong to ask the proportion of charity work to commercial ? (I just know that Uo1 will have some figures)
carful/watch out howsty uyo mhight be joining unitofUn beyond the upa
If you were to set up a charity in archaeology what would it be for
(the last time I saw Jonny hall he was working as a car park attendant (actually he was emptying the bins). The next time that I went there they had delmoploished the carpark and there was an excavation going on and he could not get a job on itâ¦.
There is no such thing as charity archaeology. Come on I have never heard advertised, Come on this charity dig, whats going on, the world is gone mad, I blame old people.
Death to Local Archaeology? - vulpes - 13th August 2008
Quote:quote:How close is a good pub to the office?
From what I was told after they moved from Cherry Hinton to their new place, not very. Although there is a pub nearby - I'm not sure how good it is.
This, however, is not a side effect of their takeover by OA. And besides there are Uo1 more things in life than pubs. Or so I am told. e.g. off licences. Besides the smoking ban does not [u]yet</u> extend to my flat!
Also I'm not aware that CamArc or Cambs CC AFU was ever a charity. Stop me if I'm wrong. Are they being confused with a trust? Back to the box.....
Death to Local Archaeology? - BAJR Host - 13th August 2008
Vulpes are you suggesting that Uo1 is confused.. I have always found him to be level headed and meticulous in details.
Anyway, I fear that a pub would be essential for the lubrication of ideas .
I would love a charity dig... (but then... correct me if I am wrong... archaeology is not just diggin 'oles)
"I don't have an archaeological imagination.."
Borekickers
Death to Local Archaeology? - vulpes - 14th August 2008
No, I would never suggest such a thing. It's more likely me who is confused, although this may be brought on by reading too many of Uo1's posts, or not, I'm confused. Coppergate was a bit of a charity dig weren't it.
Death to Local Archaeology? - Unitof1 - 14th August 2008
Quote:quote:Although there is a pub nearby - I'm not sure how good it iswithout local knowledge this is what happens. Camarc was ever a not anything. I donât think that it was ever a limited company. I think that it was a service provided by the wim of a county council. l I think within its education and museum budgets. Now it (rather the overlords) appear to still be attempting to maintain some of that virtual good name identity (apparent local knowledge not so good in the pub department) with the addition of East to the name Oxford arch, which as it does not seem to be registered as a separate trust is some kind of screen as its presumably regulated for tax purposes under oxford archaeology (?), a trust but a trust I think in symbiosis with Oxfordshire county council/university. The question could be why are oxford archaeology fighting against the economies of scale, stationary letter heads. advertising, (subscriptions to RAO status!). Is it a liability thing?
Coppergate was a dig run by a charity. York Archaeological Trust is an independent charity, founded in 1972 (registered as FRIENDS OF THE YORK ARCHAEOLOGICAL TRUST FOR EXCAVATION AND RESEARCH), which investigates the past for the benefit of present communities and future generations but now I get confused (me too) with YORK ARCHAEOLOGICAL TRUST FOR EXCAVATION AND RESEARCH LIMITED.
Hosty Is it alright if I just specialise professionally in the only digging holes bit, call it something like field archaeology, have an institute for itâ¦.You might like to ask for licence of my copyright. Donât let me stop you doing all the other types of archaeology, I am sure that they are very interesting.
Quote:quote: The question which does begin to raise its head, is the nature of the beast...
blinking blimy hosty am I starting to get through. What is the difference hosty. You seem to suggest that a measure can be made.
Quote:quote:Would it be wrong to ask the proportion of charity work to commercial ?
What is charity work in archaeology so that I donât end up taking any away from the charities and can stick to digging?
Death to Local Archaeology? - BAJR Host - 14th August 2008
Hosty sees big picture... hosty sees archaeology as more than just hole ...
hosty sees difference between understanding charities and trust while at the same time not saying they root of all evil.
perhaps those that 'just' dig, should consider the other bits too.
"I don't have an archaeological imagination.."
Borekickers
Death to Local Archaeology? - ShadowJack - 15th August 2008
And this thread was getting to be interesting.....
The comment about discounted software is a fair one and one that applies to university units as well - but not for much longer.
Both AutoDesk and Esri have changed their licencing conditions which makes it virtually impossible to buy discounted educational versions - regardless of any charitable or educational status.
When you add that in to the costs of installing and running Microsoft products.....it's why we're looking at developing Open Source alternatives. Neither Inkscape, GIMP nor the various CAD alts are there yet and might not be for a couple of years - but I think they have to be the future. GIS software like gvSIG or QGIS is almost there - but still needs developing, especially with input from folk like us.
It is one of the advantages of a large organisation like OA - they/we can allocate R&D time to projects like this, but, like everything else - it has to fit into a business model, in this case, reducing software licence/maintanence costs in the longer term (when you're looking at £80K+ for your AutoCAD licences - you want alternatives!)
Unitof1...
Sorry - but you've actually lost me!
The only response I can give to one of your comments is that there is no connection between OA and Oxford CC or University
ShadowJack