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troll
1st April 2009, 03:13 PM
Greetings to all. Rightyho, tis time for me to spit my dummy out as is my bent. May I draw your attention to the front page story seen in the Cyprus Weekly newspaper (march 27th-apr 2nd) number 1520. This can be viewed in all its glory by logging onto www.cyprusweekly.com.cy

A truncated rectangular building is magically morphed into a unique triangular temple. "Its one of a kind predating previous discoveries by a thousand years". Not one of a kind then.

"The first evidence of religion in Cyprus...". Oh really.

"we found no statues, although there is evidence that it is a monotheist temple.The most important thing is the altar and the blood channel running on two sides". Oh please..

Apparently this structure is unique so just how can it "resemble temples in Palestine and of the Canaanite religion"?

Apparently it "has links to descriptions in the bible". Really.

"Among the finds we found stone horns which are more ancient than those found in....." Just how did the horns get dated?

And this really got my hackles up Troll stylee.." The religious purpose of the building is confirmed by the materials found, including four calcarenite horns and bones from sacrificed animals"
So, that makes it a religious building does it? Whats the difference between butchered animals and sacrificed ones perchance?

Please-have a look for yourselves and if like me, you feel compelled to respond to this fantasy please write to the editor of the newspaper. By the way, in the photograph you can see an identical rectangular building in the top right hand corner. Not truncated in this case. This is appalling and I may have to rant!!!!!!!!!!!!!:face-confused:

..knowledge without action is insanity and action without knowledge is vanity..(imam ghazali,ayyuhal-walad)

garybrun
2nd April 2009, 02:23 PM
Was it an April fools joke??

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troll
3rd April 2009, 08:04 PM
No mate-seriously. This lady has been digging over here for quite some time and made wild claims in the past but this-I just couldn`t believe what I was reading. Is it just me who thinks this is a bit much guys? Over a hundred of you have read this thread so, what do you think? Please don`t tell me that the BAJR massif has gone all coy about constructive criticism?:D

..knowledge without action is insanity and action without knowledge is vanity..(imam ghazali,ayyuhal-walad)

Plautus
3rd April 2009, 10:15 PM
Honestly, I thought it was an April Fools joke. I liked the "blood channel" particulary.
It is quite instructive in giving an insight into the way in which the general public views archaeology.

BAJR Host
6th April 2009, 08:58 AM
When I first saw this when I was doing a piece for Stonepages BAJR Podcast.. I have to say that I was shall we say - doing a lot of eyebrow raising.. there was lots to raise eyebrows too..

nuff said! :face-huh: [:0]

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troll
9th April 2009, 08:07 PM
Turns out that the Cypriot Department of Antiquities are stating that "further work" is required before confirmation of the ladies claims can be made.
Kind of a polite way of applying brakes to a runaway train methinks. The site that the lady has been digging for some time seems to include an industrial area incorporating metallurgy and olive oil processing. The industrial activities need not be contemporary and yet, the lady claims that olive oil must therefore have been used to feed the flames of the metallurgy processes. Does anyone know of any precedent where olive oil has been used in metallurgy?
I know that I keep banging on about this site but I am really deeply concerned...... if you haven`t read the claims made by this archaeologist yet then please- simply google "oldest temple in cyprus" and have a look.:face-approve:

..knowledge without action is insanity and action without knowledge is vanity..(imam ghazali,ayyuhal-walad)

Plautus
11th April 2009, 03:07 PM
I know a little about metallurgy and smelting and thought this olive oil claim very unlikely.
While in theory you could use olive oil to smelt ore it would be very difficult. Because it naturaly a burns at quite a low temperture you would need to blast a terrific amout of air over the oil to raise the burning temperature to allow you to smelt. If you did this however it is very likely that then metal your smelting would oxidise and be of very low quality.
One of the reasons charcoal is used in smelting was that it burns very hot without excess oxygen and even burns off oxides in the ore itself making high quality metal.

I found a link to the claim about olive oil and have a couple of queries.
http://www.stonepages.com/news/archives/001793.html

a couple of questions
1) If the olive oil is used in smelting - why not press the oil where the trees are and transport the oil to the smelting works?
2) Could not the olive oil traces in the furnaces mean that they were burning the waste from the presses? - you cannot burn any oil without a wick of some kind. I would be interested to know what it is suggested they used.

troll
2nd May 2009, 10:39 PM
All the media hype seems to have gone quiet on this one. I rattled off a fairly comprehensive letter to the Dept. of Ant here over two weeks ago asking a few questions and await a response. Will let you know......[:0]

..knowledge without action is insanity and action without knowledge is vanity..(imam ghazali,ayyuhal-walad)